?

Log in

LiveJournal for Fandom's Bitches.

View:User Info.
View:Friends.
View:Calendar.
View:Memories.
You're looking at the latest 20 entries. Missed some entries? Then simply jump back 20 entries.

Saturday, July 17th, 2010

Subject:Placeholder Post
Posted by:joanne_c.
Time:2:15 am.
Posted so Lj will not delete this community.
Comments: Add Your Own.

Monday, July 14th, 2003

Subject:I might as well post something
Posted by:joanne_c.
Time:7:24 pm.
Mood:bitchy.
Because I feel like bitching about this.

I'm on a community called RPS Challenge.

Now to me, RPS is Real People Slash.

But for some reason, the people who run the community (I don't know who they are) have said that it's okay to post het or slash.

I mean, shouldn't it be called RP*F* Challenge if so?

It really annoys me.

The same way people talking about gen lotrips (LOTR RPS) annoys me. If it's RP*S* it's slash. Lotrips came from the RPS - so it shouldn't be categorised as het or gen.

I'm sorry, but it annoys me when people do that. Slash is same-sex (canonical or not, I don't give a damn at this point) romantic/sexual interaction in a story. Het is opposite-sex romantic/sexual interaction in a story. Gen is a story in which the romantic elements are not important (a canon relationship may be mentioned, but it wouldn't be the focus, there might be non-canonical UST that also wouldn't be the focus).

So am I being strange for being annoyed about this?
Comments: Read 1 orAdd Your Own.

Friday, December 6th, 2002

Subject:Bugging me
Posted by:lexin.
Time:1:07 pm.
Mood:annoyed.
Something that's really beginning to bug me in HP stories, mostly slash (because slash is what I mostly read) but I'm sure it applies to others, too. I know it's been mentioned before, but I've just got to get it off my chest.

Pomphrey. No, dickhead, it's Pomfrey.
Dumbledor. No, dickhead it's Dumbledore.
hoard/horde: a miser has a hoard of money, Gengis Khan had a horde of followers.
your/you're: your book, your pen, your unfortunate obsession with Snape. You're going to Hogsmeade, you're going to be expelled, you're an idiot who can't tell a possessive from usage of 'to be'.

Some days, I really wonder at the standard of education in the western world.
Comments: Read 4 orAdd Your Own.

Thursday, October 10th, 2002

Subject:Maybe this is more of a nitpick than a bitch...
Posted by:yesdrizella.
Time:2:36 am.
Mood:curious.
Or nitpicking and bitching are the same? Heh.

But - are there any people, outside of the ones in pornographic films, that actually "shriek" during sex?

My defined sound of a "shriek" is what you'd hear in horror movies. That kind of ear-piercing sound you'd emit when you spot the killer heading toward you with a chainsaw or a butcher knife.

Is it possible to have sex THAT good? LOL Maybe I've been with the wrong people.
Comments: Read 3 orAdd Your Own.

Friday, September 13th, 2002

Subject:No more ff.net for me!
Posted by:moonjaguar.
Time:11:09 am.
http://www.livejournal.com/talkread.bml?journal=childfree&itemid=626973&view=5614877

Not that I've liked ff.net for the past, oh, two years almost? I liked it better when it was smaller and less full of kiddies or officious dickwads like, oh, um....

While I don't fully support unsupervised surfing for kiddos, I think there are more harmful things that 14 year old Ashli Tayler can get into on the net than some fanfic stories with sex in them... like pedos in teen chat rooms, for instance. In a library, there are kid, teen, and adult books. They are in their sections, and the stories on fanfiction.net are marked with a rating, which is to me like the sections in the library. Since when does having adult books in the same library as kids' books harm kids? True, it's not going to stop kids from reading it but the warnings are there

Instead of the internet being a babysitter, parents need to be aware of what their kids are surfing to, but make informed decisions, i.e., is a story with sex going to hurt my child or not? I'm personally more concerned with violence than sex, though I don't blame violent TV or video games on kids going on killing sprees. But that's another story right there.
Comments: Add Your Own.

Posted by:chevauchee.
Time:11:10 am.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-cfp@dept.english.upenn.edu

The 24th International Conference on the Fantastic in the Arts (ICFA)

Call for Papers and Panel Participants Slash and Fan Fiction

"What Might Be Going To Have Been: Dark Myths and Legends"

March 19-23, 2003
Ft. Lauderdale Airport Hilton

Participants are being sought for panel discussion and paper sessions on Slash and Fan Fiction for the 24th Annual International Conference on the Fantastic in the Arts. The focus of ICFA 24 is on the darker side of the fantastic, on the strange and horrific elements of myths, legends, and fairy tales that creep into science fiction and fantasy. For more information and conference updates, you can visit www.iafa.org.

Possible topics for include comparative studies of slash and fan fiction writers and communities, interactions between writers and fandoms, relationships between writers and their controlling narrative, tensions between fanon and canon, tension between fan fiction and corporate interests, tension between fanfic divisions (slash, het, gen) and genres (BSDM, darkfic, happyfic, AUs, etc.). Other topics could address the role of the Internet in fan culture and the the changing role of the zine.

Any fandoms based on fantasy, horror, or science fiction books, television, film, comics, gaming, anime, and manga are welcome, as are any papers on fandoms that relate to the conference theme of the dark fantastic.

If you are interested in taking part in a panel on slash or fan fiction, please contact Barbara Lucas, Lakeland Community College, 7700 Clocktower Drive, Room C-2048, Kirtland, OH 44094. barblucas@yahoo.com.

Panel participants should send an e-mail containing their current/working contact information (snailmail AND email address at least) and a brief statement of their interest in fan fiction.

If you are interesting in submitting a paper, proposals should include a 500-word abstract and appropriate bibliography indicating the project's scholarly or theoretical context. Be sure to include current/working contact information (snailmail AND email address at least).

Please feel free to forward this call to other listservs and individuals who might be interested!


===============================================
From the Literary Calls for Papers Mailing List
CFP@english.upenn.edu
Full Information at
http://www.english.upenn.edu/CFP/
or write Erika Lin: elin@english.upenn.edu

===============================================
Comments: Add Your Own.

Sunday, September 1st, 2002

Subject:I'm vexed
Posted by:joanne_c.
Time:1:26 am.
Mood:annoyed.
Why can't people agree what Real Person Fic/Slash is? At least when it comes to posting it?

I've heard ten different definitions this week - all designed to exclude one type of RPFic.

It vexes me. I'm exceedingly vexed </commodus>

The only one I can, maybe, agree on as questionable is when an RL person is portrayed in a movie (eg, Dorie Miller in Pearl Harbor, played by Cuba Gooding Jr, or even John Nash in A Beautiful Mind). I could accept that kind of fic being acceptable on non-RPFic lists.

But I'm rather annoyed at people accepting RP character/FP character and yet saying RPS is not okay. That's a double standard.

But I suppose expecting fannish consensus on anything is a bit of a Sisyphean task.
Comments: Read 1 orAdd Your Own.

Wednesday, August 7th, 2002

Subject:Dear adorable little teenybopper writer -
Posted by:chevauchee.
Time:3:10 pm.
Mood:groggy.
You're cute sweetie. You think up interesting storylines. Pairing Jamie Lynn Spears and Aaron Carter is a good idea and the motivation was realistic.

But it's not SLASH. Do not talk about slash like it's something that happens heterosexually. It doesn't. Just cause you think it means explicit sex only means that you haven't paid attention.

[note - accidently posted this in my journal, correcting now]
Comments: Read 11 orAdd Your Own.

Tuesday, July 23rd, 2002

Subject:This is really weird...
Posted by:joanne_c.
Time:1:36 am.
Mood:distressed.
Okay...this is weird

Discussion on tolkien_slash about why incest warnings are used on Merry/Pippin stories (something I've been wondering about myself, actually) and some interesting reasons for it have come up. I don't think I would personally use one if I ever wrote that pairing, but I've never considered cousins to be incest anyway - it is an eye of the beholder thing and IMO, if you can get married (in the legal sense), it's not incest and there are many places cousins can marry. And frankly if people know they're cousins, they'll read the stories knowing that.

But a couple of things disturb me.

1. The opinions coming through are enough that I'm concerned that it's going to become a standard to label *all* M/P stories as incest, even if the author doesn't feel it is, and I am morally and ethically opposed to warnings the author doesn't find necessary.

2. In one post, someone mentioned that there have been incest warnings in Harry Potter fandom for Harry/Sirius Black stories. This *deeply* disturbs me on so many levels it's not even funny. First and foremost - Harry and Sirius are not blood-related in any way, shape or form. I just don't *get* labelling stories with that pairing as incest. It isn't, and it *could* give people the wrong idea about the label of incest - hell, it could in the worst case scenario give people the wrong idea about incest itself. If Harry/Sirius is labelled incest, so should Harry/Snape, Harry/Lupin, Harry/Lucius Malfoy - any generation-gap pairing. Because *that's* the possible squick - not incest.

I could be opening a can of worms here. I write incest fic, I run the incestfic list - but I would never, ever label a story with a label that was so *wrong* as these people seem to be doing. The stories I label incest are brother/brother and sister/sister (so far).
Comments: Read 8 orAdd Your Own.

Saturday, July 20th, 2002

Subject:Member of the fandom... but not a fan?
Posted by:chevauchee.
Time:2:35 pm.
Mood:confused.
And why, exactly, would you be on a mailing list for a fandom you don't like? I mean, don't you have to like the original show to a certain extent before you get into the fandom? I mean... Don't you?

I'm thinking and thinking about this, but it's making my brain hurt.
Comments: Read 8 orAdd Your Own.

Sunday, July 14th, 2002

Subject:Irony, thy name is fandom.
Posted by:rsadelle.
Time:1:44 pm.
Mood:amused.
Considering that Eve/Kadorienne's bad slash was the main cause of my disenchantment with Eroica fandom, I'm rather amused by the fact that she has a link to Citizens Against Bad Slash.
Comments: Read 9 orAdd Your Own.

Friday, July 5th, 2002

Subject:How stupid can you be?
Posted by:rsadelle.
Time:12:08 pm.
Mood:aggravated.
List rule #2: No RPS. There's an explanation, then it says, again, in all caps, NO RPS IS ALLOWED ON RARESLASH.

This is not a hidden rule. It's there for everyone to see in the welcome message that gets sent to everyone who joins. It should be perfectly obvious that it is a rule that must be followed. It even tells you where you can go for RPS.

Why is it, then, that nearly every admin message I've had to send since becoming the listmom is a reminder that RPS is not allowed? Are people really so completely idiotic that in their second post to the list they feel the need to break a rule?
Comments: Read 6 orAdd Your Own.

Wednesday, June 26th, 2002

Subject:No, I don't believe someone is out till they're out
Posted by:joanne_c.
Time:4:10 am.
Mood:accomplished.
Written in response to some of the debates in the LOTR_RPS fandom. Also, the first paragraph is partly lifted from an old post on a list I'm on that I didn't make - it set me off on the train of thought that led to this.

When I see a man dating women, talking about loving/wanting women, and never saying a word about sexual/romantic feelings toward men, or displaying any tendency towards same - I tend to think of that man as straight. I might be wrong about him, but until he tells me so or proves me wrong in some other way, that's where my head is, where my perceptions are.

I'm not saying that this precludes bisexuality or same-sex desire or heteroflexibility or any other variation. Or even the possibility of closeted gayness in some cases (but I would think that this was the least likely - I'd be more likely to see the possibility of closeted gayness in someone who *didn't* date or talk about themself dating anyone to the world at large).

What I'm saying is that the way he presents *himself* to me is straight. It's not homophobic to take surface impressions as right until or unless proven wrong. It's human. We can't read the minds of others, so how can we form any other impression if we're not *given* any other impression?

Could hugs, touching, etc towards the same sex be argued as displaying same-sex tendencies? I'd say that they perhaps make it *possible* that they have same-sex tendencies. I'd also say it was equally possible that they were just very friendly. I've seen enough of both sexes being cuddly to know that sometimes it means more, but in the vast majority of cases it doesn't - IME. But I would never presume to think seriously either way about it. I might think it was sweet, even wonder a bit in the back of my mind if it did mean more, but I'd never do more than wonder in the privacy of my own head.

I don't think I have the right to talk about anyone's sexuality that isn't my own. I don't presume anyone's sexuality who I meet, because I've actually quite often been wrong. I've presumed (in my mind only) women I met through m/m slash to be straight and have found out later that they were bi or lesbian. I also presumed the men I met through f/f slash were straight, and found out later that it was not always so. I presumed a woman I met through f/f was lesbian, or at least bi. And she turned out to be straight, she just actually liked the idea of writing f/f sex more than m/m because she felt that as a woman she knew how a woman, or two women, would react and feel, but she wouldn't be able to do the same when it was two men. And I've also presumed that men I've met through m/m slash are gay or bi. And there are *actually* a (very) few straight men into m/m slash fandom.

So, do I think it's possible our boys could have done something? Yes. Anything's possible, and I can't see why they wouldn't under some circumstances. Do I believe it with all my heart and soul? No. And I won't believe in it like that until I get some kind of actual confirmation from them. I'm not homophobic. I like the idea that it might have happened. But I won't believe it till they tell me in some way. Until or unless I hear differently, the way they present themselves is the way I see them. I'm assuming that people are presenting themselves as they are, or at least as they see themselves.

Because that's the way I feel people should be able to talk about their sexuality.

On their terms.

Let's put it this way: Would anyone *ever* consider analysing and interpreting the behaviour of Ian McKellen to come to the conclusion that he *could* be straight?

Of course not (at least most people would answer this way, I think - if not, go ahead - and send me the details, 'cause I could use them for fic *g*).

So why is it so wrong to hold the belief that yeah, maybe something happened, but I'm not going to insist it could have until or unless I get something a hell of a lot more concrete than speculation and cuddly public behaviour? And until or unless I get something from a source I can respect (reasonably reputable magazine/newspaper - and more than one, usually, would be my definition, btw), I'm not going to believe with all my heart and soul that anything happened.
Comments: Read 3 orAdd Your Own.

Thursday, June 20th, 2002

Posted by:kkscatnip.
Time:9:34 pm.
Mood:pissed off.
when someone gives you tips on your writing, you do not thank them and tell them that all of the mistakes they pointed out are only your 'style.' (more like a lack thereof paired with severe need for attention)

and one more thing: e.e. cummings is the only person who can get away with no caps, and that's only because he's fuckall talented. learn your shift key. there's two on your keyboard just in case one is broken. if they're both broken use the caps lock. if all three keys are broken... get a new keyboard.
Comments: Read 6 orAdd Your Own.

Subject:Pairing names
Posted by:yesdrizella.
Time:3:16 pm.
Mood:annoyed.
Dear Fandom,

Yeah, it's fun making up new words. Uh huh.

STOP.

I'll admit I've made up one or two, but mostly as a joke. I don't take most pairing names seriously, because it takes away from the origin of the word 'slash'. Namely, the actual SLASH in between the names (yeah, I know it's silly, but go with me here). I understand that for fandom to grow, it must evolve, but must it be so utterly obnoxious?

And so my wish is for fandom to stop making up impossible to pronouce words - or words that just sound fucking STOOOOPID in general - in a vain attempt to be cute.

And should anyone should actually start referring to K/S, the original slash pairing, as Spirk or, God forbid, Kock, I will not be held accountable for my actions.

Sincerely,
Mynx
all about the Basez
Comments: Read 10 orAdd Your Own.

Wednesday, June 19th, 2002

Subject:And now, a word from our sponsor ...
Posted by:bubosquared.
Time:1:46 pm.
Mood:cranky.
Or archivist, as the case may be. I've been working on revamping and updating the RS-X archive, and ARGH! My eyes! Okay, so you've written a story. Good for you. You wanna post it to a list, and submit it to the list archive. Great, that's what they're there for. However, a few things to keep in mind about formatting:

For the love of all that is holy, people, please use paragraphs. Praragraphs are your friends. Learn them, use them, love them. And use blank lines in between them instead of single line breaks and indents. First of all, that looks really shitty in email, and secondly, I use a macro to code the stories, and it turns these kind of stories into one big paragraph unless I put extra work in it. Make my life, and that of your readers, easier, and just don't.

Save your story as a text file, then cut and paste into the body of an email. Do not, I repeat not use attachments. Ever, at all. They just get discarded on RS-X, anyway. Don't c&p from a word document, becuase a lot of us have our email clients set to convert things to pure text, and that screws up both the formatting and things like "smart quotes", and all we see is a bunch of gibberish. The same goes for HTML email. Not only does it come out looking like crap on my end, it's also a lot bigger than a pure text email of the same size. Be mindful of other people's bandwith.

And on a non-formatting note, if your story starts with "[He] sobbed into his pillow," you will not only decimate your reader base, but you'll also make your archivist recoil in horror and have to wash her brain out with Lysol.

Please, I beg of you, have some mercy, here.

Comments: Read 3 orAdd Your Own.

Thursday, June 13th, 2002

Subject:Bisexuality
Posted by:joanne_c.
Time:3:48 am.
Mood:frustrated.
Could people please get a clue as to what bisexuality means?

Bisexuality is not "I was once into women and I will now be into men forever" (reverse for f/f).

Could more slashers learn this, please.
Comments: Read 8 orAdd Your Own.

Tuesday, June 11th, 2002

Subject:*shakes head*
Posted by:misswhiplash63.
Time:11:05 pm.
Mood:bitchy.
Are people really spoing for a fight that much! Why is it that when two member of a list have a discussion 400 other people run in with all guns blazing without bothering to find out what it's about? Like someone gets the wrong end of the stick and a load of people take their side without reading back into the discussion to see what was origionally said. And make great moral diatribes about it that would have been very well said had they beed approapriate. Which they weren't.

Also, why do some list members have this compulsion to fill everyone in with their lives on a weekly (or even daily) basis? "Hi, i'm writing a fic" ... "Hi,i've written more of the fic" .... "Hi,i haven't written anything lately cos i have writers block"... "Hi, i've started on a new fic" ... "Hi, my computer crashed"... On and on. Look, either write a story or don't, but don't spam lists with the fact that your writing it. Nobody cares!
Comments: Read 2 orAdd Your Own.

Posted by:kkscatnip.
Time:3:49 pm.
Mood:bitchy.
i hate it when people say, "this is my first post, be nice." it's one of the delete on sight phrases, along with "english isn't my first language, be nice" and "this sucks, but i posed it anyway." there are reasons. oh, are there reasons.

it doesn't matter if it's their first post or not, the "Feedback:" part of the header is for saying one don't want anything but positive feedback. and if i really want to be a bitch, i am going to be a bitch whether it's the person's first post or not. playing favorites for people i don't know just isn't one of my games. most importantly, though some think it perhaps to be least important, writers get better through crit. if everyone's nice and it's their first post, how the hell does the person ever get any better?

something like the above has probably been said before, but i just wanted to say it again. it just irks me severely and makes me want to be mean just to spite them.

similarly, "Be nice to _______! S/he's new!" is something that's just as bad. i will not be nice to someone just because i'm told to do it, especially when it is my list. lists aren't democracies... some people just fail to understand that little detail.

fandom's rather reptitive. it's always the same things over and over... but they keep doing them anyway. i think that's the most frustrating thing of all.
Comments: Read 5 orAdd Your Own.

Monday, June 10th, 2002

Posted by:bubosquared.
Time:9:55 pm.
Mood:irritated.
Dear people on "my" mailing list (as in, the MLs I'm on):

Please learn to form coherent sentences, and maybe internalise a bunch of grammar and spelling as well, because if I have to spend half an hour and ask for a second opinion in order to even begin to understand what you just said, I'm not going to be very willing to put up with whatever crap you're trying to get across.

Thank you,

Melle

Comments: Read 5 orAdd Your Own.

LiveJournal for Fandom's Bitches.

View:User Info.
View:Friends.
View:Calendar.
View:Memories.
You're looking at the latest 20 entries. Missed some entries? Then simply jump back 20 entries.